Brothers Spanked - Oliver & Fred - Part One

MJM | Not voted video yet | 16th October 10:18

I really like Oliver & Fred. And I especially like this film. Can't wait (but somewhat patiently doing so) for the next part.

Dave - Straight Lads Spanked | Not voted video yet | 16th October 10:44

Hey MJM, Really glad you enjoyed this. It was a lot of fun to make (and I got my entire room painted)! :)

Ooleary | Voted Video 9/10 | 16th October 12:44

Yes at last being for this since i saw the pics on twitter great to see Fred and Oliver again can't wait for part 2

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 16th October 12:48

I always enjoy the brother dynamic. Oliver and Fred work well together (but I wish I could have understood half what they were saying to each other lol).

Oliver never seems to get tired of stepping in it and has a knack for meeting trouble halfway. But I have to say that I admired the way he tried to protect his younger, less culpable, brother. It was good to see them together again. Part Two should be very interesting.

Dave, do you dislike swearing in general or is that just part of the Mr. X character?

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 16th October 13:20

*Scratches head and wants to know how to give a video a 22/10 rating lol*

@ooleary, I got the pic as an update on my cellphone as I wasn't yet on Twitter. I was in the grocery store at the time and people were staring at me because I was laughing so loud ;D

Dave - Straight Lads Spanked | Not voted video yet | 16th October 14:34

hmmm, that is a good question about my dislike for swearing. I get asked it often.. So let me try and answer as honest as possible.... So in my own personal life, I do swear. Sometimes. But I am always socially aware about my swearing and would only do it in front of someone I feel comfortable with...

In this movies I make I am aware that the viewers watching care a lot about discipline. So I will keep the lads swearing in check... I am happy to do that as I don't really want the lads swearing on film in front of you all....

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 16th October 15:03

Dave, I've just heard you check their language enough, even in interviews, that i felt it was something you didn't like. I never got into the habit myself but I do swear occasionally (ask Chiki about the time I F-bombed my phone! lol) but I really don't like it. I do understand that most people talk that way. I've just heard you scold the lads about their language a lot.

Ooleary | Voted Video 9/10 | 16th October 15:08

@Cheryl kay I don't know how 22/10 came up my phone has a mind of it's own sometimes it must be drinking the cooking sherry with your phone

Lynne | Not voted video yet | 16th October 16:00

I'll delay my vote until part II :). Dave, I am not good with patience here when there is a part II pending...what do I need to do to bribe for a quick post of part II? :)

I've said it before, Oliver acts with his eyes. The opening the eyes wide, narrowing, opening wide again innocent boy look all while digging himself that extra deep hole. That is one of the things that makes these movies so great is the ad libbing and playing off the scene in progress.

Poor Fred looked a little sensitive..he had been away too long :) Oliver was Oliver..attitude and all.

::hypnotizes Dave...Part II next week, Part II next week....::

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 16th October 16:31

@ooleary. it's my laptop that drinks the cooking sherry. My phone has been known to smoke spliff occasionally LOL.

Lynne | Not voted video yet | 16th October 16:52

Cheryl..you are an IT repair place's or IT staff's worst nightmare....:) Sticky keys underneath from the sherry and I won't go into the spliff...where on Earth did they come up with that name anyway? Never understood the whole 'fag' for a cigarette either. Using that word anywhere here in the US would most likely get a person shot.

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 16th October 18:10

@Lynne, the Geek Squad made a Wanted Poster with my face on it LOL. We didn't really call it "spliff" back in my day (I sound sooooo old when I say that!). My friends and I called it "whacky tobaccy". I never understood "fag" for a cigarette either. There are a lot of British slang words I've forgotten the meaning of. I do still know what a "knob end" is though (naughty, naughty Oliver!)

I agree about Oliver and his expressive eyes. As a new member, I haven't watched all of his movies yet but I'm impressed with the way he uses his eyes, When he can't think of anything clever to say, he lets those gorgeous eyes do the talking for him. You can really see the family resemblance between Oliver and Fred.

Yeah, Part 2 quickly if you please, Dave :)

uchikimatsu | Not voted video yet | 16th October 18:14

@Orla - I thought your rating of "22" would land this clip on the Top Rated Movies list... but alas, its not there! I wonder exactly how the ratings are calculated...

matt | Voted Video 8/10 | 16th October 21:15

Great clip. I love brothers getting an OTK spanking together; so hot. Oliver is, as always, fantastic. He's handsome and a really good actor. I love how he kicks and squirms OTK when he's getting spanked. Nice scenario, great work by both brothers and Mr. X., and great spanking action. As always, all praise to the post production art of Art. Thanks everyone.

Art | Not voted video yet | 17th October 06:25

Hey Matt - thanks, appreciate the comment. I love the "art of Art" thing - I once thought of putting on the end titles "Editing is a work of Art" - but I thought it sounded conceited. :-)

MJM | Not voted video yet | 17th October 12:42

Hi Dave, who's idea was it, your's or Oliver's for the words on the wall?

Aimee | Voted Video 7/10 | 17th October 16:21

Good movie. Fred looking really different. Good to see him and Oliver in a movie together again.
Well done to all involved as usual.

matt | Voted Video 8/10 | 17th October 16:51

Art...not conceited. Just the facts. Congrats again.

Domfan | Not voted video yet | 17th October 17:49

Oh my word, these two are so adorable. Christmas has come early! The acting was great. Love how Olly was protective over his little bro. Fred's smile is so enchanting so when he goes all grim faced its really effective.
Can't wait for part 2

bobbyspank | Not voted video yet | 18th October 19:35

love to see you getting then to spank each other sometime and no holds barred spanking followed by a good taste of the strap love to see Oliver spanked to real tears .

Domfan | Not voted video yet | 19th October 10:19

Or even Fred spanked to tears, so making Olly even more angry with Mr X

Lynne | Not voted video yet | 19th October 11:46

Actually Art...if what Dave has said in the past is true about what he sends you at times, maybe it should read "Editing is a miracle done by Art" :)

Art | Not voted video yet | 20th October 08:57

Thanks so much, Lynne, that's such a nice thing to say.
I think the thing is Dave really likes to challenge me, and I love it if I can rise to the challenge - kinda like coming back with "oh yeah, what else you got?" Sort of like "My grandmother hits harder than you do." Just more polite. :-)
I'm kidding. I really don't want Dave to up the challenge.
Have a good one, Lynne - and all the rest of you guys as well.

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 20th October 12:03

I always get a bit annoyed at people who talk about "spanking to tears". I wonder if those people have any idea how hard it is to elicit tears from adult by spanking him (or her)? Believe me when I say that pain alone will rarely cause an adult to cry, even one who's not into spanking. I've been getting spanked as an adult for about 12 years now and have never cried from just a spanking, even back in the days when I was punished by a disciplinarian.

To get an adult to shed tears in a spanking video, there first off has to be trust. The person being spanked has to feel safe enough emotionally to allow the person spanking them to take them to that place where the tears will happen. Most adults do not like to cry and try very hard not to. The spanking would be the least of it. You have to take the head space of the person into account. If you're doing a story line that's close to a real life situation (which Dave has said he likes to do) then the emotions are going to be pretty close to the surface. Scolding the person about their actions and the pain they have caused others is more likely to get the tearful response and not the spanking alone.

Oliver did shed a few tears in his Bath Brush Beating, but I never heard him outright sob. I also saw Wayne wipe his eyes a few times during his as well, but again no overt sobbing. I will allow that severe pain can cause the eyes to water. But I've done that from being injured, where spanking had nothing to do with it. For full-on sobbing, the psychological components of the scenario are far more important than the physical. Sorry this turned into somewhat of a rant, but it's a pet peeve of mine when I see people talking so cavalierly about tears. It's very, very hard to get a person to tears, which is why it happens so rarely.

Lynne | Not voted video yet | 20th October 14:23

Cheryl and Bobby...take a look at the vid: Oliver Stole.

MJM | Not voted video yet | 20th October 17:12

The things I loved most about this film, were Oliver grappling slightly with Mr X, when he tries to stop him from punishing Fred. And second, was Mr X's shocked reaction to Fred's outburst.

uchikimatsu | Not voted video yet | 20th October 17:12

***EDIT***

Hey, Cheryl, I hope you wont judge us "spanked to tears" fans too harshly...
You brought up some good points in your comments. Most spanking models are just actors for cash and not actual spankos, and, from personal experience I'm quite aware how difficult it is to bring an adult to tears, even when the spankee is emotionally or psychologically vested, never mind a non-spanko model. For these reasons, real tears tend to be the Holy Grail of spanking clips.
Its possible that tears bring a touch of reality to the spanking. If we see tears we can suspend the reality that the spankee is just some model that needs quick cash and believe for an instant that what we are witnessing is genuine. For me, tears signify remorse and I can feel satisfied that the punished is not, after all, an incorrigible jerk, but a human being capable of regret and shame. I like to think that people are basically good. Some of them you have to reach deep down to see it. Really, really deep. But to me, tears signify their human side, the part of them that connects with other humans.
Expressing a desire to see someone spanked to tears is perfectly natural for a spanko, especially ones that have toppy or subby tendencies and are not pure masochists or sadists, enjoying the activity for the physcial sensations of it alone.
This is also a place where we feel comfortable expressing ourselves and desires, and our wants for future clips to Dave, even if they arent realistic (and we know this.)

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 20th October 17:43

@Chiki, I don't judge anyone here...harshly or otherwise. I just think some people don't quite understand that tears are a rare outcome on videos and that a hard spanking isn't enough to cause them. I do enjoy seeing tears in certain scenarios (a father/son one for example) but tears just for tears' sake probably would make me feel awful for the poor spankee.

I didn't mean in any way to imply that anyone was wrong for wanting to see tears either. I think, as I said, that there are certain scenarios that would be enhanced by some well-shed tears. I was just commenting more on the fact that some people think it's easy to get a big, strong guy to cry just by spanking him.

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 20th October 17:45

I hit "submit" too soon LOL. I also meant to say that I mean no disrespect to you or to Dave or to any of the other members with my comments. I was just trying to shed some light on the subject. My apologies to anyone I offended.

uchikimatsu | Not voted video yet | 21st October 03:34

Hey Cheryl, no worries, I never said I was offended! I was just trying to shed some light of my own about why some of us might want to witness tears during a spanking clip. As you, and probably most people on the site know, I've been on the flip side of your coin spanking people for 20 years. The point I want to make is that we are all adults and spankos here. I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of members have some level of knowledge and experience in the spanking theatre.
I don't think stating the desire to see a model cry is a casual or cavalier one, but rather an expression of fantasy.
I would probably consider my life complete if Liam had broken down into sobs and shed tears in his BBBlues film instead of catching a case of the giggles. I'm aware of how astronomically unlikely that was to happen, but still feel safe among my fellow spanko members to express that, though!

Domfan | Not voted video yet | 21st October 13:23

I'm not too bothered about tears but I like when one guy shows concern for another. Whether it be older bro looking after younger or Mr X caring after the spanking and rubbing their bum better. I'd live to see a friend caring for his soanked friend or being protective or consoling.

Dave - Straight Lads Spanked | Not voted video yet | 21st October 15:53

Hey Lynne, I promise you wont have to wait too long until Part Two

Dave - Straight Lads Spanked | Not voted video yet | 21st October 15:54

Great feedback, glad you enjoyed Matt & Ooleary

Dave - Straight Lads Spanked | Not voted video yet | 21st October 15:56

Hey MJM, it was eventually Oliver that thought of it. We discussed it a lot but he persuaded me that people from 'across the pond' would understand it..

Dave - Straight Lads Spanked | Not voted video yet | 21st October 15:57

Domfan, Aimee... really glad you just enjoyed it all! I agree, it was lovely to have Fred back! :)

Dave - Straight Lads Spanked | Not voted video yet | 21st October 16:01

Lynne and everyone else that is appreciating Art's work, I am so pleased you are recognising him and what he does. It is truly exceptional! I love this phrase Lynne...

"Editing is a miracle done by Art"

You have no idea how true that is! The man is a genius and has the patience of a saint with being able to wade through what I send him and turning it into something spectacular!

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 21st October 16:47

Domfan, you bring up a very lovely point...one brother caring for another. One of the things I so loved about this film was the fact that Oliver was trying to protect Fred, who he felt hadn't really done anything wrong. That part of the film was so sweet it made my toes curl :)

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 21st October 16:49

Chiki, sometimes my conceit knows no bounds. I realize now that most of the folks on here probably do have spanking experience. I came across as a total know-it-all and for that I feel bad. But as we say, live and learn.

Domfan | Not voted video yet | 22nd October 00:23

@cheryl, glad you agree on the "protection" thing..it's so heart warming . I've always been fascinated by that kind of dynamic in men because it's so rare to see it especially on film. Even rarer to see a guy consoling another. It's almost taboo.
Oh, and you're not conceited. You just wear your heart on your sleeve.

welshboy | Voted Video 10/10 | 24th October 08:28

I was so happy when I got back and I could see that this film had come out so soon. Oliver is always a joy to watch and it is so good to have Fred back Fred has such a cute smile. This story was so great. I loved to build up to it all, and it was good use of old footage. Art you did a great job on this film as it all flowed and it made this film so much better. I just hope part two is just as good.

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 29th October 19:17

@Domfan, I do tend to wear my heart on my sleeve. I'm sorry it took me this long to see your comment. I'm glad I'm not alone in loving the brother dynamic. But I also love how the guys who are good friends try and protect each other (as Wayne did Adam by taking the blame for the pot in WTYFGH). I just don't think it's a dynamic you can get with two random guys shooting together. There has to be love and caring there. And with Fred and Oliver. you can definitely get that vibe. I used to wonder what it was about the M/M dynamic that attracted me and now I wonder if that's not it or at least part of it.

Domfan | Not voted video yet | 30th October 00:10

@cheryl....Bingo! I Also love love love when male friends protect each other, and I love to see mens reactions to when other men are upset. Most of the time the other man does nothing as its not considered masculine to acknowledge that another guy is upset (it's like get over it you're a man). Even TV and films encourage thus appalling attitude as usually the guy either just has to suffer or wait for a girl to hug him. So bizarre what society's rules are. But then just once in a blue moon you get brief hints that a guy cares for another guy and even rarer gives him a hug and a kind word.
I just think society's fucked up so when this happens it warms my heart

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 30th October 08:43

@Domfan, guys are trained in society to be "macho". I don't know if it's still trained into people anymore, but I used to hear about something called the "British stiff upper lip". Maybe that's another reason that guys act so nonchalant about each other? At any rate, I just really like the scenarios where one guy tries to protect the other or offers to take more punishment to spare the other guy. There's something noble about that, so even if the guy is in trouble, we can admire him for his actions. My dad was a Marine and a man's man through and through. My brother was raised not to cry over things like getting spanked or falling off his bike, but when his dog died or when our Gandpa passed away, my father absolutely made it clear that those were times when it was appropriate to cry. He also hugged and kissed him, the same as he did my sisters and me. So he grew up with it being very OK for guys to show affection for each other. While the macho posturing in some the SLS films in kind of cute, I generally prefer that buddies look out for each other. Thanks for opening a very good discussion here.

Domfan | Not voted video yet | 30th October 14:02

Oh yes I love macho posturing too, don't get me wrong. But mix it up with some love and friendship and I'm hooked.
My dad was quite rigid / tough but I don't know If that's why I feel this way. But I think I felt like this since I was maybe 8 years old.

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 30th October 22:23

@Domfan, I totally agree, I do sometimes love the macho posturing. But since I'm a woman (and an old one at that...I would probably be called an old biddy by any young people on here LOL) I do love the softer side, too. But who really knows why? I kind of gave up trying to figure out why I like to be spanked and watch others get spanked. Really, at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. I'm just happy to have like minded people to share it with :)

Domfan | Not voted video yet | 31st October 17:27

Typical. Just watched a TV crime episode and a young guy was captured by a sadistic killer. Lucklily the police saved him but guess who gets to hug the young guy and console him.....a female cop. It's ridiculous. It's the male cop who saved him but again not allowed to show he cares. The world is mad.

Domfan | Not voted video yet | 1st November 17:14

By the way, Fred us nit getting enough praise for his acting in this movie. Ollie is great as always (especially when he's aggressive and foul mouthed) but Fred is perfect here and so convincing. He acts with his eyes just like his bro. I love Fred.

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 9th November 07:39

@Domfan, I just saw your comments and have to agree with both of them. Cop shows are notorious for the amount of macho they contain. Even in the "buddy" shows you don't see physical affection between the male actors (OK, maybe a hair tossle if it's father/son). It's a shame, really. And I have to agree with you, too about Fred. He was really awesome here. He doesn't get to show how good an actor he is, which is another reason I so love the Stolen Holiday Money series. Fred is simply awesome in those movies.

Domfan | Not voted video yet | 11th November 14:59

[email protected] to have someone else appreciate Fred. So frustrating about cop shows. Why such societal fear about male to male affection ?

Cherylkay | Voted Video 8/10 | 13th November 13:59

@Domfan, did you ever see "Good Will Hunting"? It has one of the most amazing male to male moments I've ever seen. If you haven't seen it, Netflix is your friend :)

uchikimatsu | Not voted video yet | 13th November 17:07

@Domfan - this is almost exclusively why I watch MM clips, to be able to observe that kind of intimacy between men. I find it endearing and thrilling all at the same time, most likely because there is so much fear and anxiety surrounding emotion/affection between men.

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